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        <![CDATA[ If you apply and get the job, I want credit because I will get a free dinner 


here&#39;s the details given by Jason &amp; Mark @ Mahalo.com

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Doubling the size of our technical staff here in Los Angeles to keep up with the growth of Mahalo

We&#39;re looking for a really killer Systems Engineer here in Los Angeles to work at our very cool factory in Santa Monica where they will make... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Wanted - FT System Engineer at Mahalo in Santa Monica ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ OK you got me on the 2-year 500 Million one. I was probably optimistic, but they have to be worth 100 Mill right now based on the 5:1 venture capital ratio.
With Microsoft in a buying mode, search is getting more valuable. I assume that they will build value and sell before they run out of money. The VC&#39;s will
see to that.
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If they didn&#39;t have a plan, I don&#39;t think Sequoia, Elon Musk, CBS &amp; others would have invested (rather heavily). Investors like this can provide... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Wanted - FT System Engineer at Mahalo in Santa Monica ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ You are a big time optimist.   The odds of a small company being worth even a fraction of 500 mil  2 years from now is very remote.   And, regardless of their
perceived value at that time, the stock is worthless unless and until the company goes public.  As far as I can tell right now, they are still privately held. 
Just because they are backed by a venture capital group does not mean they will ever go public.  Any time you are served a carrot of stock options in a
currently non public... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Wanted - FT System Engineer at Mahalo in Santa Monica ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ &quot;they only hire Americans!!&quot; Now that is a real plus! How can anyone project $500 million two years in the future? Is this supported by a business
plan? Is it projected revenue, or is it the company&#39;s anticipated net worth? Or? Is it a WAG? I would want to know a lot more than their cash position
before I signed on. You say that they have cash enough for 4 years. What is included in that projection?
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I can&#39;t help it. I&#39;m a financial guy at heart, and have little... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Wanted - FT System Engineer at Mahalo in Santa Monica ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ They want talent. They are willing to pay for it. They have some early stage stock options they will be handing out. They have a unique angle on a supposedly
commoditized industry, internet search
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BFD on their style.
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Their ad made me laugh.
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Wanted - FT System Engineer at Mahalo in Santa Monica ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I think the work environment is somewhat (high expectations) like Codger implied, but then I found out that they are distributing 15% of the stock to 50
employees. If the company is even partly successful and maybe evaluates to 500 million in 2 years, well ...you can do the math but I get 1.5 Mil each. I know
thety are ahead of schedule on their inventory of search pages. All this info is public from internet searches I did.
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Also they have a lot of money in the bank, enough for 4... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Poster,
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Yes, well, maybe it would be a fun experience for a person getting started. After all, it is their own perception of themselves that matters, and if this job
makes them feel special, then they would be happy about that.
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And just maybe it might be a great, fun place to work.
<br>
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I perceive that today&#39;s young (and I mean young!) CEOS at startups are Super Capitalists: get the most work out of your underlings, feed &#39;em free
pizza, and then YOU take all... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>I informally checked on this and the pay is a lot higher, but the hours are probably somewhere between normal and what you said. I also found out that the
stock options are pretty good. I also did some background work and found they are pretty well financed. 
<br>
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Maybe the reason this company (Mahalo) appeals to me is because it reminds me of a place I worked at a long time ago. It was a large toy company that had a mix
of creative designers vs engineers and was a really good... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I wouldn&#39;t last ten minutes in that type of environment. The very thought nauseates me. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ But it looks like you do <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> From what I hear, either you love him or hate him. I am personally kinda neutral, bit it looks to me that all the preliminary
patter in the posting is typical corporate egospeak to pump up the candidate.
<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t work on the left coast, so my opinion on most of the dot-com crowd are just what I hear. But it looks to me that the biggest value in an internet
startup is perception from both the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Translation: your &quot;superstar&#39;s pay&quot; will be primarily artificially created bragging rights and phony status.
<br>
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Your hourly rate will be about $19/hour for 90 hours a week mandatory.
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Oh, and because you are so important, you will wear a beeper...even in the shower. <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif" alt="image">
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I think that someone should kick Jason&#39;s ass. What an immature, ego-centric jerk. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ If you apply and get the job, I want credit because I will get a free dinner <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif">
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here&#39;s the details given by Jason &amp; Mark @ Mahalo.com
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Doubling the size of our technical staff here in Los Angeles to keep up with <font color="#000000">the</font> <a target="_blank"... ]]></description>

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