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Sticky Topic Let's keep threads on-topic and apolitical/nonreligious here - G0ddard B0lt - (0) - 12/07/07 18:17:54
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - ilconsiglliere - (16) - 11/21/09 21:54:49
    Two things - G0ddard B0lt - 11/19/09 13:36:01
    Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - codger - 11/19/09 14:12:34
    Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 11/19/09 22:02:35
    Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - I D Shukhov - 11/19/09 23:36:32
    So is plumbing - David Randolph - 11/20/09 11:04:39
       Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - codger - 11/20/09 13:50:04
       Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - Richardk - 11/20/09 16:19:53
       Security Certs - I D Shukhov - 11/20/09 17:18:31
          To me it sounds like... - G0ddard B0lt - 11/20/09 17:35:04
             Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - I D Shukhov - 11/20/09 23:21:12
                Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - ilconsiglliere - 11/21/09 15:19:22
                   Here's an even more fundamental concern: eventual dilution of the field - G0ddard B0lt - 11/21/09 17:46:33
                   Re: Getting Into IT Security? Opinions? - DG9 - 11/21/09 19:21:52
                   The Big Lie about decision making - I D Shukhov - 11/21/09 19:31:36
                      ID, your comments generally "ground" things to reality - G0ddard B0lt - 11/21/09 19:45:25
                      The goodness of a decision depends on how much a person is committed to making the choice succeed. - DG9 - 11/21/09 21:54:48
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts Join Mensa and put on resume somewhere? - I D Shukhov - (12) - 11/09/09 00:01:37
    A resounding NO - G0ddard B0lt - 11/07/09 13:33:24
    Re: Join Mensa and put on resume somewhere? - TRexx - 11/07/09 13:56:13
    Ok, thanks. Now for a second resume question: a functional one? - I D Shukhov - 11/07/09 15:50:13
       Functional can be useful - Richardk - 11/08/09 00:57:27
          Re: Functional can be useful - I D Shukhov - 11/08/09 02:58:22
             A combo resume - Richardk - 11/08/09 14:07:36
                Re: Join Mensa and put on resume somewhere? - I D Shukhov - 11/08/09 16:42:19
                   Re: Join Mensa and put on resume somewhere? - TRexx - 11/08/09 18:03:53
                      "in case they have to reassign them when the hourly folks go on strike." - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 11/08/09 18:21:40
                   Skills matrix - Richardk - 11/08/09 18:17:52
    In Australia, anyone with 'Mensa' on his resume.... - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 11/08/09 16:49:18
       "Member of Mensa" may cause the resume to get weeded out - I D Shukhov - 11/09/09 00:01:37
Looking for a major lifestyle change - unix - (9) - 11/04/09 19:19:42
    Real Estate/Career/Location - Dennis Nedry - 10/12/09 05:37:04
    Re: Looking for a major lifestyle change - I D Shukhov - 10/12/09 09:25:37
       Re: Looking for a major lifestyle change - unix - 10/12/09 23:56:30
    Outside Income & Personal Contacts - David Randolph - 10/12/09 10:43:34
    southern california - jedi - 10/24/09 13:38:15
       Re: Looking for a major lifestyle change - peligro - 10/27/09 13:27:12
    Re: Looking for a major lifestyle change - unixwindmill - 10/29/09 21:49:31
    My 3 cents... - DarkHumour - 11/04/09 18:22:58
       re: College towns - Origisaurus - 11/04/09 19:19:41
Anybody here make money from their website? - benali72 - (1) - 11/02/09 11:20:40
    Some - David Randolph - 11/02/09 11:20:40
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts Is Google one of the the best employers? - Peter Codewrite - (24) - 10/24/09 13:41:05
    Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - TRexx - 10/03/09 23:53:52
       I disagree with some of this - G0ddard B0lt - 10/04/09 00:27:15
          Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - TRexx - 10/04/09 09:47:58
       How to treat contractors - Peter Codewrite - 10/04/09 10:58:36
          Some do this better than others - Richardk - 10/04/09 12:44:27
             corporate events and contractors - jedi - 10/24/09 13:41:04
    Cargo cult brainwashing - G0ddard B0lt - 10/04/09 00:25:44
    Duck ? - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 10/04/09 03:44:32
    Like it or not, Google is king of the internets - Dennis Nedry - 10/04/09 12:55:13
       Webcrawler -> AltaVista -> Google -> ???? - Peter Codewrite - 10/04/09 14:23:16
       Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - John Masterson - 10/04/09 15:10:51
          Stats - Dennis Nedry - 10/04/09 15:44:32
             I Like Gmail; no spam - John Masterson - 10/04/09 15:54:57
                Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - I D Shukhov - 10/04/09 16:13:59
                I like gmail too - Dennis Nedry - 10/04/09 16:18:16
                   This Is Normal In Some Companies - ilconsiglliere - 10/05/09 10:38:21
                      Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - codger - 10/05/09 13:23:13
                         Isn’t that the ultimate goal? - Richardk - 10/05/09 15:25:17
                            Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - codger - 10/05/09 17:39:58
                               Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - Origisaurus - 10/05/09 18:28:23
                                  Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - David Randolph - 10/09/09 10:29:39
                                     Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - Richardk - 10/09/09 10:45:55
                         Google wants *all* paid listings - Dennis Nedry - 10/05/09 17:11:08
                            Re: Is Google one of the the best employers? - expat - 10/07/09 04:57:12
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts What was the best company you worked for? - Peter Codewrite - (19) - 10/24/09 13:35:17
    Re: What was the best company you worked for? - datagirl - 09/30/09 07:40:34
       Re: What was the best company you worked for? - I D Shukhov - 09/30/09 08:33:47
       Datagirl, you live near Mobile bay right? - Dennis Nedry - 09/30/09 17:15:33
          re: Datagirl, you live near Mobile bay right? - datagirl - 10/01/09 07:14:25
             Re: What was the best company you worked for? - Origisaurus - 10/01/09 10:10:15
                Re: What was the best company you worked for? - datagirl - 10/01/09 12:03:27
    Re: What was the best company you worked for? - Origisaurus - 09/30/09 10:28:57
    2 best - Dennis Nedry - 09/30/09 11:07:54
    Re: What was the best company you worked for? - expat - 09/30/09 15:16:58
       HP, same here - G0ddard B0lt - 09/30/09 17:07:23
    Re: What was the best company you worked for? - TRexx - 09/30/09 17:27:58
    Right here, right now - unix - 10/03/09 21:10:16
       Re: What was the best company you worked for? - TRexx - 10/03/09 23:57:51
    Back in the mid-80's, I worked in the Avon Cosmetics Laboratory for a while - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 10/04/09 03:48:53
       Re: Avon - TRexx - 10/04/09 09:37:45
          The two best companies I ever worked for are... - pm4hire - 10/04/09 22:35:15
             B*ll Labs - ilconsiglliere - 10/05/09 09:58:24
                Re: B*ll Labs - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 10/05/09 18:56:37
    SAP and now - jedi - 10/24/09 13:35:14
posticon Some takeaways from a NY Times article about a job listing - G0ddard B0lt - (1) - 10/22/09 19:22:48
    Re: Some takeaways from a NY Times article about a job listing - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 10/22/09 19:22:48
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - I D Shukhov - (16) - 10/19/09 22:32:33
    Re: Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - TRexx - 10/17/09 10:21:31
    Re: Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - Origisaurus - 10/17/09 10:24:10
    Check out doing it through a local community college? - DG9 - 10/17/09 10:31:15
    Yes, all good points - I D Shukhov - 10/17/09 10:52:23
    In theory this is a great idea - G0ddard B0lt - 10/17/09 12:59:14
    Re: Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - Origisaurus - 10/17/09 14:24:51
       Re: Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - I D Shukhov - 10/17/09 16:30:35
          Consider your target market *carefully* - G0ddard B0lt - 10/17/09 18:18:17
             Re: Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - I D Shukhov - 10/17/09 20:46:03
             Your market makes a big difference - Richardk - 10/18/09 12:12:19
          loss-leader has merit - DG9 - 10/18/09 05:14:54
    Re: Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - pxsant - 10/17/09 18:29:33
       Re: Has anyone tried freelance teaching? - I D Shukhov - 10/17/09 21:04:47
    The house takes the pot - David Randolph - 10/19/09 10:30:24
       re: The house takes the pot - Origisaurus - 10/19/09 11:16:02
       Perfect application for a cooperative - I D Shukhov - 10/19/09 22:32:33
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts A Business Idea - Opinions - Dennis Nedry - (18) - 10/16/09 12:38:20
    Will they perceive value? - John Masterson - 10/13/09 11:36:42
    Re: A Business Idea - Opinions - G0ddard B0lt - 10/13/09 11:45:51
    Would need the right kind of clients - Dennis Nedry - 10/13/09 12:36:58
       A question for you... - G0ddard B0lt - 10/13/09 12:47:52
          Haven't worked in this space as much as you - Dennis Nedry - 10/13/09 14:26:56
             Free trials, etc - G0ddard B0lt - 10/13/09 16:08:39
                What about targeting the market? - Dennis Nedry - 10/13/09 17:11:26
                   These are pre-qualifed customers - Slinky - 10/13/09 17:47:07
                      Targeting pre-qualified customers makes it more plausible - G0ddard B0lt - 10/13/09 18:10:02
                         Are they really pre-qualified customers? - Richardk - 10/13/09 20:47:22
                            Here's an even more bottom line "Bottom Line"... - G0ddard B0lt - 10/13/09 22:44:23
                               That's a big factor - Richardk - 10/14/09 01:00:45
                                  RE: Perception - Peter Codewrite - 10/14/09 07:38:37
                                  "work on the project yourself / with your team" - Origisaurus - 10/14/09 09:37:08
                                  Echoing the thoughts of others. - datagirl - 10/15/09 11:01:25
                                     Re: A Business Idea - Opinions - Origisaurus - 10/15/09 11:10:11
    Yes, there is a market - David Randolph - 10/16/09 10:31:38
       Re: A Business Idea - Opinions - G0ddard B0lt - 10/16/09 12:38:18
posticon Failure Builds Character - pm4hire - (5) - 10/16/09 10:18:31
    Re: Failure Builds Character - Origisaurus - 10/12/09 22:11:39
       Ha ! - DarkHumour - 10/13/09 17:26:41
          Learning and changing - David Randolph - 10/16/09 10:18:30
    Re: Failure Builds Character - Dennis Nedry - 10/13/09 14:38:27
    Chitty-chitty bang bang beat this by about 40 years - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 10/13/09 22:37:48
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts Years of IT experience (Poll Topic) - I D Shukhov - (11) - 10/16/09 08:02:47
    The median number of years of experience is 23.5 (No text) - I D Shukhov - 09/22/09 22:22:34
       No matter - Origisaurus - 09/23/09 14:38:13
          Re: Years of IT experience - I D Shukhov - 09/23/09 21:01:56
             Re: Years of IT experience - Origisaurus - 09/24/09 21:50:42
                Re: Years of IT experience - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 09/25/09 07:01:38
                   Re: Years of IT experience - Origisaurus - 09/25/09 07:58:39
                      Re: Years of IT experience - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 09/25/09 08:08:36
                Re: Years of IT experience - I D Shukhov - 09/25/09 10:09:58
    Re: Years of IT experience - expat - 09/28/09 09:10:15
       Re: Years of IT experience - codger - 09/28/09 17:46:50
    question - unix - 10/03/09 21:07:38
posticon #5 "Best" Job Drawback: Staff jobs can be outsourced to consultants - I D Shukhov - (5) - 10/15/09 17:53:44
    This Is Laughable At Best, Did You See #1 & #8? IT IS GREAT :( - ilconsiglliere - 10/12/09 13:33:05
       Re: #5 "Best" Job Drawback: Staff jobs can be outsourced to consultants - TRexx - 10/12/09 17:33:09
    This stuff is really annoying... - DarkHumour - 10/15/09 16:21:43
       A lawyer doing Pro bono work while looking for the "right" position sounds smart to me... - DG9 - 10/15/09 16:51:13
          Perhaps... - DarkHumour - 10/15/09 17:53:44
posticon 1st Rule in Creativity - pm4hire - (0) - 10/14/09 23:48:57
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts "Top 50 *Chicago* Companies" noted with LCA requests - DarkHumour - (10) - 10/14/09 18:57:14
    Re: "Top 50 *Chicago* Companies" noted with LCA requests - JavaMouse - 10/06/08 07:48:56
       Variation of top fifty "chicago companies" - DarkHumour - 10/06/08 20:00:56
          Re: "Top 50 *Chicago* Companies" noted with LCA requests - TRexx - 10/06/08 21:07:02
             "Boing" - DarkHumour - 10/06/08 21:58:06
    Here are some Alternatives - JTGalt - 10/10/08 10:18:10
       I noticed Lucent as not on the list! - pm4hire - 10/22/08 14:35:15
          I guess they are in Naperville but as Alcatel-Lucent - DarkHumour - 10/22/08 17:37:19
       True, too true! - koehj - 10/07/09 20:14:09
          Looks like - Origisaurus - 10/07/09 22:58:22
             Idealists don't survive too long these days - koehj - 10/14/09 18:57:14
SAAS is the way to go - Dennis Nedry - (0) - 10/13/09 18:37:22
posticon Open ended question: how important is self confidence for finding gigs? - G0ddard B0lt - (6) - 10/12/09 20:39:44
    I Think Its Critical To Self Confident Bordering on Arrogant - ilconsiglliere - 10/12/09 13:42:15
       Agree 100% - G0ddard B0lt - 10/12/09 14:35:23
    Be yourself - Dennis Nedry - 10/12/09 17:15:17
    My answers to the questions. - Peter Codewrite - 10/12/09 20:02:14
       Re: Open ended question: how important is self confidence for finding gigs? - G0ddard B0lt - 10/12/09 20:11:30
          Re: Open ended question: how important is self confidence for finding gigs? - Peter Codewrite - 10/12/09 20:39:44
posticon How should I go about selling myself @ $25/hr offsite? - ITWhore - (7) - 10/12/09 02:08:28
    Re: How should I go about selling myself @ $25/hr offsite? - unixwindmill - 10/08/09 21:35:24
    Rate not the issue - Dennis Nedry - 10/09/09 07:12:30
    Re: How should I go about selling myself @ $25/hr offsite? - I D Shukhov - 10/09/09 08:20:44
    Craigs list overrated - David Randolph - 10/09/09 10:40:25
    Salary - DarkHumour - 10/09/09 15:06:30
    It's a lot harder work than you're used to, ITWhore - G0ddard B0lt - 10/11/09 17:19:38
       Good ideas here - unix - 10/12/09 02:08:28
Are resumes passe? - I D Shukhov - (7) - 10/09/09 22:01:58
    Re: Are resumes passe? - Richardk - 10/09/09 16:06:29
       Re: Are resumes passe? - Origisaurus - 10/09/09 18:23:04
          Reminds me of a Peanuts cartoon about 40 years ago - 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 1Aussie1 Oi Oi Oi - 10/09/09 20:57:10
             Paper vs. online - Richardk - 10/09/09 21:26:22
                re: Paper vs. online - Origisaurus - 10/09/09 21:37:33
             Re: Are resumes passe? - I D Shukhov - 10/09/09 22:01:57
          A nice distinction - Richardk - 10/09/09 21:17:44
Hot Topic w/ No New Posts Job environments for older IT workers - I D Shukhov - (32) - 10/03/09 21:16:17
    I've seen that too with contractors - Richardk - 09/21/09 13:13:21
       Re: Job environments for older IT workers - codger - 09/21/09 13:48:37
          Re: Job environments for older IT workers - G0ddard B0lt - 09/21/09 13:52:52
          Along the same lines - Origisaurus - 09/21/09 15:58:42
          Re: Job environments for older IT workers - Richardk - 09/21/09 16:05:31
    Bad seating arrangements - Dennis Nedry - 09/23/09 13:36:45
       Re: Job environments for older IT workers - Richardk - 09/23/09 14:00:14
          Deliberately demeaning - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 14:23:04
          100% Intentional - Dennis Nedry - 09/23/09 15:07:08
          Cubicles and office space - DarkHumour - 09/23/09 15:11:57
                   Re: Job environments for older IT workers - codger - 09/23/09 16:11:33
                      The politics stop HERE on this board - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 16:56:36
                         Re: Job environments for older IT workers - codger - 09/23/09 17:33:39
       Thanks Dennis. - codger - 09/23/09 15:51:01
          Curiously, - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 15:54:06
             Re: Job environments for older IT workers - codger - 09/23/09 16:04:45
             I've seen those types of attitudes.. - DarkHumour - 09/23/09 16:12:15
             Re: Job environments for older IT workers - TRexx - 09/23/09 17:36:48
                Completely agreed with TRexx... should try to negotiate - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 17:47:31
                Re: Job environments for older IT workers - codger - 09/23/09 17:48:47
                   You are recommending following the chain of command... - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 17:55:15
                      Codger is right, but Borks are client lapdogs - Dennis Nedry - 09/23/09 18:02:39
                         How I see bork's role in negotiation - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 18:09:30
                      The bork wants nothing to do with it - Richardk - 09/23/09 18:19:10
                         Re: Job environments for older IT workers - codger - 09/23/09 20:00:24
                            Re: Job environments for older IT workers - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 21:32:44
                               Not always easy to do - Richardk - 09/23/09 23:12:43
                Re: Job environments for older IT workers - Dennis Nedry - 09/23/09 17:51:47
                   Dennis is right for Dennis - a thing about seating - G0ddard B0lt - 09/23/09 18:06:37
                      Seating at Client Sites - Dennis Nedry - 09/23/09 23:10:22
          The economy, and cruel treatment - Dennis Nedry - 09/23/09 16:10:27
    Re: Job environments for older IT workers - unix - 10/03/09 21:16:15
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